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		<title>By: Paul Mcgrath</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/clearing-up-the-copyright-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-33075</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Mcgrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s worth mentioning that the CBC is not wholly funded by taxpayers. Taxpayers cover about 2/3 of the CBC budget, the rest comes from other sources such as advertising and licensing. In fact, licensing CBC content for educational material and other uses has been a source of revenue for many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s worth mentioning that the CBC is not wholly funded by taxpayers. Taxpayers cover about 2/3 of the CBC budget, the rest comes from other sources such as advertising and licensing. In fact, licensing CBC content for educational material and other uses has been a source of revenue for many years.</p>
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		<title>By: Woop</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/clearing-up-the-copyright-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-33072</link>
		<dc:creator>Woop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If the CBC is producing content partially using public funds, it has a duty to the public to maximize the value of said content. &quot;

To the people that haven&#039;t already paid for it, sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the CBC is producing content partially using public funds, it has a duty to the public to maximize the value of said content. &#8221;</p>
<p>To the people that haven&#8217;t already paid for it, sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/clearing-up-the-copyright-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-33062</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the CBC is producing content partially using public funds, it has a duty to the public to maximize the value of said content. 

Obviously a lot of the iCopyright stuff is questionable in the context of how stuff gets used  for non-commercial purposes on the Internet. On the other hand, if the CBC&#039;s copyrights weren&#039;t defended to a level required by due diligence there&#039;d be very little to stop an unscrupulous organization taking the Corporation&#039;s output lock stock and barrel and exploiting it for commercial gain, without giving anything towards its creation. This would dilute the value of said output, and reduce the CBC&#039;s ability to produce it in the first place.

This is one of those situations where - at least in the short term - nobody will be entirely happy with the outcome. It&#039;s a result of collision between the old creator-consumer media models and newer ones that blur the lines and emphasize participation, but the old models are still in play and can&#039;t just be ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the CBC is producing content partially using public funds, it has a duty to the public to maximize the value of said content. </p>
<p>Obviously a lot of the iCopyright stuff is questionable in the context of how stuff gets used  for non-commercial purposes on the Internet. On the other hand, if the CBC&#8217;s copyrights weren&#8217;t defended to a level required by due diligence there&#8217;d be very little to stop an unscrupulous organization taking the Corporation&#8217;s output lock stock and barrel and exploiting it for commercial gain, without giving anything towards its creation. This would dilute the value of said output, and reduce the CBC&#8217;s ability to produce it in the first place.</p>
<p>This is one of those situations where &#8211; at least in the short term &#8211; nobody will be entirely happy with the outcome. It&#8217;s a result of collision between the old creator-consumer media models and newer ones that blur the lines and emphasize participation, but the old models are still in play and can&#8217;t just be ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/clearing-up-the-copyright-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-33058</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“We’re going to take a close look at it,” he said, “The objective is to bring some clarity and some consistency, and to ensure our brand is properly protected.”

As pointed out by Mike over at techdirt, http://techdirt.com/articles/20100202/1848558018.shtml.  I agree with him that Keay doesn&#039;t seem to know what he&#039;s saying.

What we are discussing here are &quot;copying and reusing&quot;, which is related to COPYRIGHT.  Protecting &quot;brand&quot; really is about TRADEMARK.  Either Keay doesn&#039;t know what he&#039;s talking about, or the law is being misused(unintentionally or intentionally), or Keay and the group who wrote up the new TOS is not communicating properly.
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Now, some personal opinion.

I LOVE the CBC.  I love how I can always rely on it for news.  I love how I discover new music and new CANADIAN artists (whom no commercial radio gives any time to).  I can remember just 2 days ago telling my U.S. friend how we&#039;ve got the CBC and they&#039;ve got nothing that&#039;s like the CBC.

With that preface, I have to say I am disappointed at the new TOS/policy.  CBC is created with the intent to promote Canadian culture and art.  If we use common sense, you don&#039;t increase the knowledge/usage of anything by increasing the obstacles.  Imagine you have to fill in 3 forms for each book you check out at the local library.  Could you say that the library is promoting knowledge and encouraging people to learn?

Yes, CBC needs to give credit when it’s due so everyone knows what kind of good work they are doing.  This helps them get funding by saying “We did this and those and that, that’s why it’s important to give us funding!”  However, it’s a fine balance to promote itself, or to make access difficult so substantially less people use CBC.

And I pray for them to find the right balance, with all good intentions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We’re going to take a close look at it,” he said, “The objective is to bring some clarity and some consistency, and to ensure our brand is properly protected.”</p>
<p>As pointed out by Mike over at techdirt, <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20100202/1848558018.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://techdirt.com/articles/20100202/1848558018.shtml</a>.  I agree with him that Keay doesn&#8217;t seem to know what he&#8217;s saying.</p>
<p>What we are discussing here are &#8220;copying and reusing&#8221;, which is related to COPYRIGHT.  Protecting &#8220;brand&#8221; really is about TRADEMARK.  Either Keay doesn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s talking about, or the law is being misused(unintentionally or intentionally), or Keay and the group who wrote up the new TOS is not communicating properly.<br />
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Now, some personal opinion.</p>
<p>I LOVE the CBC.  I love how I can always rely on it for news.  I love how I discover new music and new CANADIAN artists (whom no commercial radio gives any time to).  I can remember just 2 days ago telling my U.S. friend how we&#8217;ve got the CBC and they&#8217;ve got nothing that&#8217;s like the CBC.</p>
<p>With that preface, I have to say I am disappointed at the new TOS/policy.  CBC is created with the intent to promote Canadian culture and art.  If we use common sense, you don&#8217;t increase the knowledge/usage of anything by increasing the obstacles.  Imagine you have to fill in 3 forms for each book you check out at the local library.  Could you say that the library is promoting knowledge and encouraging people to learn?</p>
<p>Yes, CBC needs to give credit when it’s due so everyone knows what kind of good work they are doing.  This helps them get funding by saying “We did this and those and that, that’s why it’s important to give us funding!”  However, it’s a fine balance to promote itself, or to make access difficult so substantially less people use CBC.</p>
<p>And I pray for them to find the right balance, with all good intentions.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mad Hatter</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/clearing-up-the-copyright-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-33043</link>
		<dc:creator>The Mad Hatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the CBC would have considered ICopyright in the first place is troubling. 

1) ICopyright appears to only recognize American copyright law.
2) ICopyright sounds like a Tony Soprano concept - read their website carefully.
3) The CBC is partially publicly funded - if the CBC wishes to limit the use of material it produces, it should decline public funding.

I looked into ICopyright and some of it&#039;s competitors about a year ago, and was not impressed. I personally don&#039;t expect any of them to last very long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the CBC would have considered ICopyright in the first place is troubling. </p>
<p>1) ICopyright appears to only recognize American copyright law.<br />
2) ICopyright sounds like a Tony Soprano concept &#8211; read their website carefully.<br />
3) The CBC is partially publicly funded &#8211; if the CBC wishes to limit the use of material it produces, it should decline public funding.</p>
<p>I looked into ICopyright and some of it&#8217;s competitors about a year ago, and was not impressed. I personally don&#8217;t expect any of them to last very long.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Friesen</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/clearing-up-the-copyright-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-33040</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Friesen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really too bad. This didn&#039;t need to happen in the first place. The CBC should have simply modified the iCopyright pages according to their needs (and to Canadian copyright law) before invoking the terms on their website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really too bad. This didn&#8217;t need to happen in the first place. The CBC should have simply modified the iCopyright pages according to their needs (and to Canadian copyright law) before invoking the terms on their website.</p>
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		<title>By: David Eaves</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/clearing-up-the-copyright-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-33039</link>
		<dc:creator>David Eaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed - nice to the CBC moving so quickly.
Hope they also clear up the terms of use around linking TO the CBC site http://bit.ly/ciW1WV Claiming that you can prevent someone from linking to the CBC is like claiming you can prevent them from giving driving instructions to the CBC&#039;s buildings. It&#039;s hopelessly silly and disturbing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed &#8211; nice to the CBC moving so quickly.<br />
Hope they also clear up the terms of use around linking TO the CBC site <a href="http://bit.ly/ciW1WV" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/ciW1WV</a> Claiming that you can prevent someone from linking to the CBC is like claiming you can prevent them from giving driving instructions to the CBC&#8217;s buildings. It&#8217;s hopelessly silly and disturbing.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrystal Ocean</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/clearing-up-the-copyright-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-33038</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrystal Ocean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the follow-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the follow-up.</p>
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