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		<title>By: The CBC Facebook project got hijacked. This is a surprise? &#124; Bill Doskoch: Media, BPS*, Film, Minutiae</title>
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		<dc:creator>The CBC Facebook project got hijacked. This is a surprise? &#124; Bill Doskoch: Media, BPS*, Film, Minutiae</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] here&#8217;s a blog post from Inside The CBC about the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Philip Moscovitch</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/facebookprolife/comment-page-1/#comment-5666</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Moscovitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I now have a sponsored link in my Facebook news feed encouraging me to participate in The Great Canadian Wish List. I assume it&#039;s an attempt to broaden the base of people voting. But it is still annoying. And it makes me wonder if this sponsored link was part of the plan all along, or if it went up because of the way the results were going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I now have a sponsored link in my Facebook news feed encouraging me to participate in The Great Canadian Wish List. I assume it&#8217;s an attempt to broaden the base of people voting. But it is still annoying. And it makes me wonder if this sponsored link was part of the plan all along, or if it went up because of the way the results were going.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark Browning</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/facebookprolife/comment-page-1/#comment-5657</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark Browning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was not a Globe article, &lt;a href=&quot;http://blackrod.blogspot.com/2005/09/cbc-bloggers-reveal-their-secret.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;it&lt;/a&gt; was a right-wing blogger quoting a left-wing blogger, quoting you.  There are some other, even less direct, references but I don&#039;t think they serve any purpose.

The source material is obviously lost in the ether and as a general rule, double hearsay is not particularly reliable, but that is what is out there.

Again, nothing personal, but I find that the taxpayer-funded CBC has a particuar viewpoint which - intentionally or not - you appear to have expressed.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Tod replies: Ah, thanks for the source link. That does indeed look like the kind of joke I&#039;d do. In fact, the &quot;strikeout gag&quot; is used by &lt;strike&gt;at least two&lt;/strike&gt; many, many bloggers. 

If I really meant to delete the reference to the Conservative party, I&#039;d have deleted it. Leaving it in with a strikeout is meant to be satirical. Usually I put a smiley after those things so &lt;strike&gt;Conservative party members&lt;/strike&gt; the general public get the joke. ;-)&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was not a Globe article, <a href="http://blackrod.blogspot.com/2005/09/cbc-bloggers-reveal-their-secret.html" rel="nofollow">it</a> was a right-wing blogger quoting a left-wing blogger, quoting you.  There are some other, even less direct, references but I don&#8217;t think they serve any purpose.</p>
<p>The source material is obviously lost in the ether and as a general rule, double hearsay is not particularly reliable, but that is what is out there.</p>
<p>Again, nothing personal, but I find that the taxpayer-funded CBC has a particuar viewpoint which &#8211; intentionally or not &#8211; you appear to have expressed.</p>
<blockquote><p>Tod replies: Ah, thanks for the source link. That does indeed look like the kind of joke I&#8217;d do. In fact, the &#8220;strikeout gag&#8221; is used by <strike>at least two</strike> many, many bloggers. </p>
<p>If I really meant to delete the reference to the Conservative party, I&#8217;d have deleted it. Leaving it in with a strikeout is meant to be satirical. Usually I put a smiley after those things so <strike>Conservative party members</strike> the general public get the joke. <img src='http://www.insidethecbc.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Clark Browning</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/facebookprolife/comment-page-1/#comment-5631</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark Browning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 05:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a rhetorical question that was not aimed personally at you.  As a technology commentator, you don&#039;t seem to make explicitly political statements.  I have not found any reference where you lauded leftist for coopting new media.  

However, it appears that during the CBC lockout in 2005 the Globe and Mail had a poll regading the relevance of the CBC and you suggested that Conservatve Party members were driving the No vote and that was a bad thing.  From the different ways I have read it, you inferred that the conservatives were not part of the general public, or that the conservatives &quot;overwhemled&quot; the poll, although that term may have been attributed to you.

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&lt;blockquote&gt;Tod&#039;s reply:

Hi Clark,

Thanks for the reply.

Actually the Globe and Mail article you referenced was a misquote -- and a pretty egregious one at that. If you read the comments on that specific article, you&#039;ll find that even the reporter himself who did the interview agreed it was inaccurate.

Sadly, Globe executives refused to make a correction either in the newspaper or in the online edition, so that error (again, even admitted by the reporter) stands in the public record.

That is why I no longer do interviews with the Globe and Mail.

One enterprising blogger (a left-leaning one, for the record) somehow discovered that I gave money to the NDP during the last election, and inferred that I am an NDP supporter. What she failed to realize was that I donated $5 to each of the four leading parties, as part of a technology column to see how well their e-commerce donation web sites worked. All is not what it seems, eh? :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a rhetorical question that was not aimed personally at you.  As a technology commentator, you don&#8217;t seem to make explicitly political statements.  I have not found any reference where you lauded leftist for coopting new media.  </p>
<p>However, it appears that during the CBC lockout in 2005 the Globe and Mail had a poll regading the relevance of the CBC and you suggested that Conservatve Party members were driving the No vote and that was a bad thing.  From the different ways I have read it, you inferred that the conservatives were not part of the general public, or that the conservatives &#8220;overwhemled&#8221; the poll, although that term may have been attributed to you.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<blockquote><p>Tod&#8217;s reply:</p>
<p>Hi Clark,</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply.</p>
<p>Actually the Globe and Mail article you referenced was a misquote &#8212; and a pretty egregious one at that. If you read the comments on that specific article, you&#8217;ll find that even the reporter himself who did the interview agreed it was inaccurate.</p>
<p>Sadly, Globe executives refused to make a correction either in the newspaper or in the online edition, so that error (again, even admitted by the reporter) stands in the public record.</p>
<p>That is why I no longer do interviews with the Globe and Mail.</p>
<p>One enterprising blogger (a left-leaning one, for the record) somehow discovered that I gave money to the NDP during the last election, and inferred that I am an NDP supporter. What she failed to realize was that I donated $5 to each of the four leading parties, as part of a technology column to see how well their e-commerce donation web sites worked. All is not what it seems, eh? <img src='http://www.insidethecbc.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/facebookprolife/comment-page-1/#comment-5629</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This scares the crap out of me. Thanks for posting it.</description>
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		<title>By: Dianne Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/facebookprolife/comment-page-1/#comment-5622</link>
		<dc:creator>Dianne Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted for this wish and I voted for it because I saw the report on the CBC news with the young man who started it.  When you give national coverage to this poll didn&#039;t you expect that members of Facebook would go to it and vote.  Seems pretty democratic to me.  Maybe you are just angry that Canadians are not like you actually think they are.  Could it be that maybe more Canadians are pro-life than you thought.  Could it also maybe mean you do not really know what a pro-life person is?  I am pro-life but I do not belong to any groups.  The young man who started the wish didn&#039;t look scary or anything like that  on your six o&#039;clock news.  Seemed like a nice guy so I decided I&#039;d vote for his wish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted for this wish and I voted for it because I saw the report on the CBC news with the young man who started it.  When you give national coverage to this poll didn&#8217;t you expect that members of Facebook would go to it and vote.  Seems pretty democratic to me.  Maybe you are just angry that Canadians are not like you actually think they are.  Could it be that maybe more Canadians are pro-life than you thought.  Could it also maybe mean you do not really know what a pro-life person is?  I am pro-life but I do not belong to any groups.  The young man who started the wish didn&#8217;t look scary or anything like that  on your six o&#8217;clock news.  Seemed like a nice guy so I decided I&#8217;d vote for his wish.</p>
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		<title>By: Tod Maffin</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/facebookprolife/comment-page-1/#comment-5619</link>
		<dc:creator>Tod Maffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clark:

Please cite where I used &quot;democratic expression&quot; or any similar headline?

I&#039;d have called it a takeover regardless of political leaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clark:</p>
<p>Please cite where I used &#8220;democratic expression&#8221; or any similar headline?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have called it a takeover regardless of political leaning.</p>
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		<title>By: Spinks</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/facebookprolife/comment-page-1/#comment-5617</link>
		<dc:creator>Spinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m a little skeptical if there&#039;s a pro-life &quot;group&quot; behind this. (it seems to be a grassroots effort). Notably absent in the CBC analysis is the fact that the #2 wish is for Canada to remain pro-choice. By the logic presented in the above blog has not pro-choice/pro-abortion (pick your wording) groups also hijacked the wishlist site. There are pro-choice blogs actively recruting non-Canadians to flood the site to boost the numbers. Yet there&#039;s nary a mention of this in the above blog. I&#039;ve grown to expect bias at the CBC over issues like this but it continues to leave me disappointed when I see it firsthand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m a little skeptical if there&#8217;s a pro-life &#8220;group&#8221; behind this. (it seems to be a grassroots effort). Notably absent in the CBC analysis is the fact that the #2 wish is for Canada to remain pro-choice. By the logic presented in the above blog has not pro-choice/pro-abortion (pick your wording) groups also hijacked the wishlist site. There are pro-choice blogs actively recruting non-Canadians to flood the site to boost the numbers. Yet there&#8217;s nary a mention of this in the above blog. I&#8217;ve grown to expect bias at the CBC over issues like this but it continues to leave me disappointed when I see it firsthand.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark Browning</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/facebookprolife/comment-page-1/#comment-5613</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark Browning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is a right-leaning viewpoint then it is a &quot;takeover&quot; but if it is left-leaning then it is &quot;democratic expression&quot; or some such thing.  What silly punter chooses the biased wording of the headlines in this place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is a right-leaning viewpoint then it is a &#8220;takeover&#8221; but if it is left-leaning then it is &#8220;democratic expression&#8221; or some such thing.  What silly punter chooses the biased wording of the headlines in this place?</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/facebookprolife/comment-page-1/#comment-5611</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike: Which place has Mr. Suzuki taken over, exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: Which place has Mr. Suzuki taken over, exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/facebookprolife/comment-page-1/#comment-5610</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any evidence that it actually is pro-life groups behind this? I personally voted for this because I think it&#039;s right; I&#039;m not apart of any groups promoting the issue that I know of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any evidence that it actually is pro-life groups behind this? I personally voted for this because I think it&#8217;s right; I&#8217;m not apart of any groups promoting the issue that I know of.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Wozniak</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/facebookprolife/comment-page-1/#comment-5601</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Wozniak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unlike many web polls where you can vote repeatedly and/or anonymously, this one requires you to put your name on the list.&quot;

But there is no need for that name to be real.  Try doing a search for &quot;anonymous.&quot;  I got 39 names including &quot;Anonymously Anonym&quot; and &quot;Tee-Tee AnonymousZ.&quot;  (Maybe they know the slew of &quot;Joe Schmoe&quot;s.)

I don&#039;t put a lot of stock in these kind of social barometers for the same reason that Darren mentioned: they are easily hijacked.  Frankly, I consider it to be a waste of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unlike many web polls where you can vote repeatedly and/or anonymously, this one requires you to put your name on the list.&#8221;</p>
<p>But there is no need for that name to be real.  Try doing a search for &#8220;anonymous.&#8221;  I got 39 names including &#8220;Anonymously Anonym&#8221; and &#8220;Tee-Tee AnonymousZ.&#8221;  (Maybe they know the slew of &#8220;Joe Schmoe&#8221;s.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t put a lot of stock in these kind of social barometers for the same reason that Darren mentioned: they are easily hijacked.  Frankly, I consider it to be a waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/facebookprolife/comment-page-1/#comment-5600</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your mention of David Suzuki and his politics it right on the money. He&#039;s taken over the place with full participation of the mother corp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your mention of David Suzuki and his politics it right on the money. He&#8217;s taken over the place with full participation of the mother corp.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy McMurray</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/facebookprolife/comment-page-1/#comment-5594</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy McMurray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is really interesting.

Unlike many web polls where you can vote repeatedly and/or anonymously, this one requires you to put your name on the list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is really interesting.</p>
<p>Unlike many web polls where you can vote repeatedly and/or anonymously, this one requires you to put your name on the list.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.insidethecbc.com/facebookprolife/comment-page-1/#comment-5591</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need look no further than the Greatest Canadian contest, in which support for Tommy Douglas was rallied by the NDP. Unfortunately, any high profile, nation-wide contest like this is going to get hijacked by special interest groups. This group just happens to be less palatable to most Canadians than the choice of Mr. Douglas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need look no further than the Greatest Canadian contest, in which support for Tommy Douglas was rallied by the NDP. Unfortunately, any high profile, nation-wide contest like this is going to get hijacked by special interest groups. This group just happens to be less palatable to most Canadians than the choice of Mr. Douglas.</p>
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