Comments on: Radio 3 Launches a New Site

By: Glad no lock out until at least 2014

Glad no lock out until at least 2014 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 03:34:19 +0000

Don’t forget the linotype machine.

“Now with bold”

Watch out for the liquid metal.

Yes I am that old.

Saw one in action when I was very young.

By: Bill Lee

Bill Lee — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:09:14 +0000

Writing to standards (and one level down from
b(leeding) edge ones) means that a lot of programmes can read the CBC. Just as they would never use san-serif type in their postings as it is more difficult to read that the Times Roman serif family that is used in the daily newspaper.
CBC is Auntie and doesn’t change much. Old ways were better, and they could buy the National Post and provide a print version of the CBC everyday for vastly more influence and coverage.
Bring back steam-powered radio-telegraphs.

By: Glad no lock out until at least 2014

Glad no lock out until at least 2014 — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:14:50 +0000

The idea of this Kevonia is intriguing perhaps one day it will flourish.

Alas image, editing and audio quality seems not to be important for some of the news stories that go to air for the corp, the same fate my fall to the IT side of things one day.

By: R3 Listener

R3 Listener — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:58:21 +0000

Still no URL addresses I can bookmark.

I was sure the redesign would improve this situation – why can’t the pages load like normal web pages?
The permalink button should not be required.

By: Kev

Kev — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:13:38 +0000

An awful lot of intranet apps are written for specific browsers, usually IE thanks to MS’ historical desktop OS monopoly. The rationale behind it is that since you have a corporate standard, you can write stuff that works with that and not double or triple up on your development and support costs.

Like I said, I also think that this is misguided (though for different reasons than you) and in the imaginary land of Kevonia the corporate policy is that said apps must conform to web standards and not use OS-specific extensions. Unfortunately Kevonia is – as yet – but a dream.

But this will never – never! – impact the CBC’s public web sites, because the same logic – covering as many users as possible, as efficiently as possible – when applied to a public and heterogeneous audience, argues for compatibility with as many modern browsers as possible.

Again, personally I feel that this could be best achieved by cleaving to web standards but there are practical issues to consider. Not every browser renders the same, for a start.

By: Glad no lock out until at least 2014

Glad no lock out until at least 2014 — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:53:45 +0000

Knowing how the bureaucrats run the joint didn’t know if the internal IT narrow mindedness about not officially supporting crappy products like Safari and Firefox would be imposed on the public sites. Don’t see what the grief is supporting a couple of different browsers considering most staff useFirefox as their browser as opposed to IE

As for standards the Corp decided a few years ago that substandard camera work, editing would make it to air, all in the name of keeping costs sane by eliminating camerawomen/men and editors.

By: VAN-Guy

VAN-Guy — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:14:20 +0000

Glad no lock out until 2014 says: Hopefully the new R3 site supports more than IE as a browser. CBC IT only supports IE.

I’m running the new R3 site on Firefox (previous R3 version also). Don’t know what you’re complaining about.

By: Kev

Kev — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:06:55 +0000

The corporate browser standard for internal applications has no bearing on public CBC sites whatsoever. And while I would agree that the current standard is not the best – I’d prefer that apps were required to conform to actual web standards rather than targeting a specific vendor’s crappy product – it is important to have a standard, to keep the support cost sane if nothing else.

FWIW, the radio3.cbc.ca site validates as XHTML 1.0 (apart from one frameset attribute) so it’s actually one of the better examples of CBC online offerings in this regard.

By: Glad no lock out until 2014

Glad no lock out until 2014 — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:56:36 +0000

Fan boy debate!

Hopefully the new R3 site supports more than IE as a browser. CBC IT only supports IE. Tough shirt Firefox, Opera, Chrome, Safari and any other browser you employees choose to use.
CBC HR doesn’t care if your HR or IO page does n;t work properly from home

By: Paul Mcgrath

Paul Mcgrath — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:49:55 +0000

FO, actually, that was based on fact – the consensus of the comments on Facebook, Twitter and the R3 blog post were generally positive. Further having tutorial material on YouTube is more a service than an indication of failure.

Either way I find your attitude tiresome. Listen, you write a blog. I write a blog. I’m not envious or jealous or your blog, in fact I don’t care about your blog, how about you not care about mine.

By: Fake Ouimet

Fake Ouimet — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:05:33 +0000

Of course the toothless official blog of the CBC would claim that “the reaction to the new site is generally positive,” though that clearly must be false if ‘users have reported bugs [and] are having problems with the streams.” If R3 needs an entire YouTube channel to teach people how to use the new site, is the site not a failure?

R3 is like an inverse Michael Enright: An institution that’s beyond official reproach.